[Lustre-devel] hiding non-fatal communications errors

Andreas Dilger adilger at sun.com
Wed Jun 4 15:20:08 PDT 2008


On Jun 04, 2008  14:17 -0700, Peter J. Braam wrote:
> Andreas has been suggesting re-transmission of these callback (aka AST) RPCs
> for years.  If we think it through carefully, it might be a simple solution.

Yes, server->client resends at least to a limited extent would help in the
case of short-term network partitioning or e.g. a suddenly-failed router.

We have some amount of "RPC resend before recovery" support for bulk RPCs
in the case of checksum errors - e.g. retry the bulk RPC 5 times for a
checksum error before returning an IO error to the application.

I suspect this could be adapted to allowing a fixed number of retries for
server-originated RPCs also.  In the case of LDLM blocking callbacks sent
to a client, a resend is currently harmless (either the client is already
processing the callback, or the lock was cancelled).

> On 6/4/08 6:25 AM, "Eric Barton" <eeb at sun.com> wrote:
> 
> > Something for recovery experts...
> > 
> > Communications may timeout for non-fatal reasons e.g...
> > 
> > 1. Adaptive timeouts were too aggressive (e.g. if server load has
> >    suddenly become extreme).
> > 
> > 2. An LNET router has failed but one or more of its peers hasn't
> >    detected this yet.
> > 
> > When a lustre client times out an RPC it sent to a server, it (a) allows
> > pending signals to be delivered (i.e. you can now ^C the process doing
> > the I/O) and (b) tries to reconnect and/or fail over.  If it reconnects
> > and confirms that the server has not rebooted, the RPC is resent and
> > may now succeed.
> > 
> > This should work in all "normal" RPCs (i.e. all RPCs apart from ldlm
> > callbacks (ASTs)) since the server knows whether it actually processed
> > the RPC or not and can handle the resent request appropriately.
> > 
> > However I think there is a problem if the RPC is an ldlm callback.  In
> > this case, the lustre server sends the RPC to the lustre client and
> > AFAIK the request is not resent if it times out.  If the request is a
> > blocking AST, the lustre client isn't notified to clean its cache and
> > cancel locks - and it risks being evicted.
> > 
> > How should this be handled?
> > 
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Cheers, Andreas
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Andreas Dilger
Sr. Staff Engineer, Lustre Group
Sun Microsystems of Canada, Inc.




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