[Lustre-devel] MDWBC and how much to trust clients

Peter Braam Peter.Braam at Sun.COM
Sun Oct 5 20:19:50 PDT 2008

We discussed this in Moscow recently.  It seems possible to avoid much
mis-behavior by building relationships that have to be confirmed before a
commit can happen.

For example a directory entry creation must be accompanied by an object
creation or link-count change.

I think it is possible for an MDS or MDS cluster to know in which cases such
relationships need to be present  for operations to transition the name
space to a new namespace (and clients can indicate what operations are


On 10/5/08 8:53 PM, "Eric Barton" <eeb at sun.com> wrote:

> Nikita,
> Do you agree that a buggy or malicious MDWBC could disrupt the
> namespace (e.g. links to missing files, orphaned files) if
> it splits up operations across multiple MDTs into sub-operations
> for the individual targets?  I think it will be an issue for
> security if we just trust the MDWBC to do such operations
> correctly, and so I'm wondering how we can fix this.
> Using a master MDT to coordinate the operation across itself and
> the remaining MDTs seems part of, but not all of the solution.
> We have to process batches in bulk to retain a significant
> performance advantage, so I wonder if that requires us to trust
> that these batches have been created correctly.
> If so, we're stuck with the MDWBC being something we can only
> do in a single trust domain - i.e. not across a WAN. That seems
> unfortunate since WAN performance should be a major beneficiary
> of the MDWBC.  Maybe in this case, we can still send batches over
> the WAN, but to a single target which proxies for the remote client
> and can be trusted to split multi-target ops over batches correctly.
> Thoughts?
>     Cheers,
>               Eric
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