[Lustre-discuss] [Lustre-devel] Integrity and corruption - can file systems be scalable?

Peter Braam peter.braam at clusterstor.com
Fri Jul 2 13:59:00 PDT 2010


Dmitry,

The point of the note is the opposite of what you write, namely that backend
systems in fact do not solve this, unless they are guaranteed to be bug
free.

Peter

On Fri, Jul 2, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Dmitry Zogin <dmitry.zoguine at oracle.com>wrote:

>  Hello Peter,
>
> These are really good questions posted there, but I don't think they are
> Lustre specific. These issues are sort of common to any file systems. Some
> of the mature file systems, like Veritas already solved this by
>
> 1. Integrating the Volume management and File system. The file system can
> be spread across many volumes.
> 2. Dividing the file system into a group of file sets(like data, metadata,
> checkpoints) , and allowing the policies to keep different filesets on
> different volumes.
> 3. Creating the checkpoints (they are sort of like volume snapshots, but
> they are created inside the file system itself). The checkpoints are simply
> the copy-on-write filesets created instantly inside the fs itself. Using
> copy-on-write techniques allows to save the physical space and make the
> process of the file sets creation instantaneous. They do allow to revert
> back to a certain point instantaneously, as the modified blocks are kept
> aside, and the only thing that has to be done is to point back to the old
> blocks of information.
> 4. Parallel fsck - if the filesystem consists of the allocation units - a
> sort of the sub- file systems, or cylinder groups,  then the fsck can be
> started in parallel on those units.
>
> Well, the ZFS does solve many of these issues, but in a different way, too.
> So, my point is that this probably has to be solved on the backend side of
> the Lustre, rather than inside the Lustre.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dmitry
>
> Peter Braam wrote:
>
> I wrote a blog post that pertains to Lustre scalability and data integrity.
>  You can find it here:
>
>  http://braamstorage.blogspot.com
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Peter
>
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